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  Higher Education - is it really the end of the WT?

  by OutsiderLookingIn in

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  as a non-jw, before i started looking into things, i must say i only encountered intelligent jws.

  so i was quite surprised to read here and in the pew report about their low overall educational achievement.

  granted, my exposure was limited (less than a handful of people over a lifetime) but i met two of them in post-college education (graduate school) at a very good school.

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  Maybe the type of degree will have different impacts. If a person were to study the liberal arts at the graduate level, I'm not sure how they wouldn't be able to see the WT as the mind controlling cult it is. Then again I know an Elder that is a lawyer, an Elder that is a high school teacher, and so on. There are those that stay for family or the easy social network that comes along with the religion. Or if you own a business the kingdom hall is a nice supply of cheap labor.
  
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  Any here who didn't rebel as a teenager and were a goody two shoes instead?

  by purrpurr in

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  when i was a teenager in the borg i was a dyed in the wool, goody two shoes, squeaky clean,"spiritual " sister.

  alot of my peers around me were rebelling and going off the rails but not me.

  i was constantly praised for this and even felt a little smug about it ha!.

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  I was obedient and submissive to the Org until 18. I'm still a good person, just not their version of "good".
  
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  UFO's might be real.and what does it mean if they are?

  by atomant in

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  for some reason this subject has not received much attention over the years which surprises me.theres many conspiracy theories floating around on the internet and lve done my fair share of due diligence on the matter.the school is still out on this one.l find it very hard to believe humans are the only intelligent beings out there.has anyone on this forum ever seen a ufo or experienced a close encounter?

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  Never experienced a close encounter. I do believe in the possibility of alien life on other worlds.

  The problem is that so far life is very rare and takes many conditions for it to survive based upon at least the life on this planet. Due to the silence in the universe (yes I know only a fraction of our own galaxy has been scanned by SETI) I have a feeling if there is life out there, it probably isn't advanced.

  If there was some break through in abiogenesis then I would be more open up to the idea of UFOs and such.
  
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  Have you ever experience suprise by an Elder that actually showed compassion and reasoning in a judicial committee?

  by adjusted knowledge in

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  some 25 years ago when i was an active teenager in the congregation there was this elder's teenage son that acted out sexually at a young age.

  the elder's son i believe was molested over a short period of time at a very young age by another elder whose wife was dying of cancer.

  the reason why i suspect it is because this elder was caught and discipline "privately" for touching the breast of a 15 year girl in our congregation.

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  Some 25 years ago when I was an active teenager in the congregation there was this Elder's teenage son that acted out sexually at a young age. The elder's son I believe was molested over a short period of time at a very young age by another Elder whose wife was dying of cancer. The reason why I suspect it is because this Elder was caught and discipline "privately" for touching the breast of a 15 year girl in our congregation. In addition he was "counseled" for other acts but he never loss his title as Elder, and this was in the 80's.This young kid would spend the night at this elder's house to keep him company while his wife was dying. Now keep in mind this elder's children were grown adults. I'm not sure why a 9 year old that wasn't related to him needed to spend nights with him. Sounded creepy to me.
  

  Anyway this Elder's son would touch both boys and girls in different age groups. He never got disfellowshiped as he was an Elder's child. He was always privately reproved. One incident happened when he was 14 and my younger brother was 15. They both engaged in oral sex. This elder's son would constantly do stuff like this with boys and girls and then tell on himself. So my father was upset and even blamed my brother and me because we didn't spend enough time with my younger brother. I'm not really sure how he equates me not playing basketball or whatever, with my brother getting a bj from another boy but that was my father's thinking. I guess you do gay stuff if you're excluded by siblings.
  

  So my brother who wasn't and never was baptized and this elder's son were brought before a judicial committee. On the committee was this very cranky sour puss Elder. The type that would rant and rave on the podium about young ones not getting baptized are going to die in Armageddon. He was dogmatic and always ranting and raving about issues in the congregation. He was never married, had no children, and was a witness for nearly 70 years. I'm sure he was a little bitter paradise wasn't here yet.

  However, this elder was very calm and explained to my father and mother that young boys sometimes experiment and that this was natural. He of course condemned the actions and read some scriptures. He was harder on the elder's son because of his past and both loss some privileges. My brother only gave bible reading talks which he was happy he didn't have to do. But my mother and father told me this Elder was very understanding and was not dogmatic. He was completely different in that private setting than he was in a public forum addressing the entire congregation.
  
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  Trying To Leave - Im Going Crazy

  by pale.emperor in

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  this is my first post.

  i really feel i need to leave the jw's rather than go along pretending everything is perfect etc.

  no friends, me at work.

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  If I had in-laws that acted like that it wouldn't end well. Can't imagine anyone dare coming to my house asking to see my credit card statement. Too bad you don't have the reputation where no one would dare question your personal life. Your father-in-law is a dick.
  
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  Did You Get Invited to the Memorial?

  by Ding in

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  i'm just wondering if jws keep inviting you back or if they've given up on you.. they haven't invited me for years..

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  no, did it already pass?
  
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  ...the relief of Congregation Members

  by Lostandfound in

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  just clearing out all old stuff and came across tyhis line in my copy of the uk memorandum of constitution, passed by each uk cong in (i think) 1997).

  this line bemused me as i know of no witness who ever receiver financial help from their congregation.

  clause 4.2.4 read for other charitable purposes including the relief of congregation members who are in conditions of need hardship or distress.

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  I never in my 15 year association with the Watchtower know of it giving material help to members. There was help given in the congregation but it came from the pockets of a few generous elders. The clean up and repairs done for example in Home Stead Florida during I think hurricane Andrew did help some members but was more of a PR stunt.
  
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  Evolution is a Fact #11 - Tiktaalik

  by cofty in

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  one of the biggest gulfs that life has had to cross was the transition from sea to dry land.. fish have conical shaped heads, reptiles have flat heads.

  fish have no necks; their heads are attached to their shoulders by a series of bony plates.

  land-dwelling animals all have necks; their heads can move independently of their shoulders.

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  http://evolbiol.ru/docs/docs/large_files/why_evolution_is_true.pdf
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  I COLLECT QUOTES. . . Here are some of my favorites

  by Terry in

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  please post your favorites too.

  my favorite quotations:.

  you cannot change what you refuse to confront.. sometimes good things fall apart so better things can fall together.. don’t think of cost.

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  If it smells like cologne leave it alone.
  
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  Do you still believe in God?

  by FormerlySandL in

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  i never thought i would admit it, but i don't.

  i might superstitiously have some kind of doubt but digging a bit deeper in my heart i really don't believe in god.

  as a human i could never just sit and watch people be tortured, live years of abuse, suffer from illness and disabilities and all the other awful things people have to endure day after day without doing something about it.

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  I don't believe but I do hold out there is a possibility. Once abiogenesis has been confirmed and proof provided, then the final nail in the coffin of my doubt will be hammered away.